Discussion in 'Kawasaki' started by doctor h, May 31, 2003.
Does anyone have a successfull statrting routine for a klx250 after a spill ??
This worked for me on an XR for years till i wised up and bought a 2 smoke.
Turn the fuel off at the petcock, hold it wide open and kick till it lights. Don't forget to turn the fuel back on again.
I never found one for my 97 KLX which is one reason I sold it. When theyre hot its really hard to start. Sorry but maybe someone else has a solution.
I thought the 250 was not supposed to be that bad. Now I have heard and seen the 300 is a bear to restart.
I have the same problem on my XR600R. Bike is a blast to ride and a good ride, just don't crash and ride because you know how much of kick fest it is going to take to restart.
Okay here goes
1. Bump start it down a hill.
2. Turn the gas off if the bump start did not work.
3. Try and start it like normal. Try at least 4 to 6 times.
4. Get out your kick starting Steroids.
5. Turn on the choke and try to start like normal. Try at least 3 times.
6. Close the choke, Hold the trottle wide open, hold the decomp lever in and kick and kick and kick. Long firm strokes at least 10 times.
7. Try and start it like normal (no Choke) if it does not start.
8. Repeat number 6 &7 again.
No fire yet.
Pull the plug and check it. Is the plug wet or dry?
Okay time for a break. Take your helmet off and sit down and let the bike cool off and you get your breath back. Wait for about 10-15 minutes. Then try starting it like normal again. It will fire back up eventually.
Hey guy I have been there and done that and kicked until I thought my leg was going to fall off. I was tired and exhausted by then. Stick this boy with a fork he is done.
Oh the last couple of steps.
Clean the bike up real well.
Advertise it a a good bike in good condition
Buy a bike with a button or one that is know for easy restart.
I did not do the first 4 of these last steps but I did do the last. A 2002 KTM 300E/XC. One to three kicks no matter how I fall down and no matter how long the bike lays there leaking gas.
If you flooded it, which is probably what happened, then hold the throttle wide open and kick it thru a few times. This is a basic method for all 4-strokes. Don't kick it hard, just run the kicker through. The reason is to have the piston pump out the rich fuel mixture and hopefully not suck too much more fuel in. Thats why you kick it slower and hold the throttle wide open, so the air through the carb won't be moving fast enough to suck more fuel. Now release the throttle, and do the proper 4-stroke drill to kick it. Some times I give the idle screw a turn to increase the idle, this can help with a hot start. Then I turn it back after it is running. Change your spark plug more often whether it needs it or not, twice a year is not unreasonable.
It is a rich problem, so don't use the choke, that will make it worse. Carbs with a hot start button add air not fuel. I don't think the klx300 is hard to start. I saw three guys trading off kicking a klx300. They asked for help, one kick is all it took. Then one guy who watched me very closely turned it off and fired it up first kick. Then they all started to started to turn it off and start it up. I never saw a bike start and get turned off so many times in a row.
Just heard about a do it your self hot start button at Planet KLK
http://www.planetklx.com/ Look under Tech Tips. After reviewing what the Stroker and Motion Pro kits are like just might try the Planet KLX way.
Does aqnyone have any experiance with any of these three methods ?
I will past a reply here with what else I learn from doing or research.
Take a look at the DRZ400. The DRZ does the hotstart the same way as the planetklx site suggests. It looks like a pretty easy way to do it. I think I would use threaded hose fittings though, and thread the hole in the aluminum intake. See what the DRZ part costs. This looks like a good way to add hotstart to any bike. I don't know what the other kits are made of, but the DRZ method has not had any problems and it works, if it is cheaper it may be a better way to go than the other kits.
I had a 1996 KLX250. I sold it to a friend and he said he had much better luck with the "hold the trottle wide open" method.
The 300 was way easier to start, they fixed something and a few parts houses had the fix for the 250, don't remember what it was, cause I was on a Husky 610 at the time which started very easy til I decided to muck with it.
Personally I always use a hill. Most of the time I crash, there is a hill around, so I use it. I does such in a CC race to head down a steep nasty hill into oncoming traffic, but that's better than wasting all your energy to kick start it only to stall out again cause your in the middle of a steep hill. I saw Ty Davis do this on a couple videos, and a friend was in a Shasta Dam GP a few years ago with him and almost ran into him as he was trying to restart his bike on a killer hill.
I recommend looking into the shifting fork fix for the KLX. Mine really like to go between gears, and I heard they improved that a lot on the 300's as well. Check out planet KLX, I'm sure they have a ton of good cheap fixes.
Kick, kick, kick,kick,kick,kick,kick.................... you get the idea.
If you are kicking it that much then you are probably not doing it right and thus wasting your time and most likely flooding it and making it harder to start. Maybe some people just need e-start.
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